And the funny thing about it is that when you actually see what's under the covers it's nothing sexual at all. They're just moving around in very odd positions. :p

My youngest child (who is 14, now) has been playing the Sims since he was around kindergarten age, as well. I had two computers so I installed the game on both and got us each our own Makin' Magic CD and we'd sit and play our separate games together. It made it easier to keep not so child friendly downloads and all that out of the game he played.
He spent most of his game play making friends, and exploring all the stuff you could do in the game after building himself a cheap house. His Sims always were better magicians than mine, etc.
My Sims 2 only works on this pc so my neighborhoods are littered with his half-built houses. He's more interested in other stuff to sit for hours and play the Sims anymore.

Debate Question(s):
-Should children (under 13) play Sims 2?

Well, my younger siblings, before they turned about nine or ten years old, had no idea how to play it. Their sims and houses were hella ugly or just didn't make sense, and every ten minutes I'd have to save all their sims from dying of hunger. But once they can comprehend it, sure! It's a very creative game and I'm sure stimulates their imagination.


-How old were you when you started Sims (1 or 2)?

Probably about ten. Maybe a bit younger. (I had longer attention spans than most kids. :P)


-Has the idea of 'WooHoo' or kissing (in game) effected you mentaly (visualy, physicaly,etc.)?

Do you mean has it turned me on? When I was like twelve, yeah, sure I exploited those pixels for my own enjoyment. Exploration like that is all part of growing up. Once, when one of my little sisters was sick (and about that age) I used the computer and realized she'd visited porn sites while she was alone in the house. She'd never done it before, and she never did it again, so I assumed she was just curious and didn't say anything to her. Exposure to those sorts of things (within reason, of course) isn't necessarily bad, even for younger kids. (within reason, of course. Though my youngest sister knows what men and women look like naked since she's been like five because we've taken her to art museums. After the initial "What's THAT?" It's just like, "Oh, okay," and then she just accepts it. It doesn't matter to her in the slightest, certainly doesn't traumatize her.) I'm sure her thought process was, "What's sex look like? Oh, that's what it looks like. Okay, now on to the next thought!" And I do agree that the Sims 2 demonstrates a very healthy and understandable version of sex. By making it taboo, you make it bad, by making it nonexistent, you make it unfamiliar, which makes it bad, and by the time you're of an appropriate age, who wants to think of sex as a bad thing?

Should children (under 13) play Sims 2?
Personally yes, i dont see a problem with it. When my 5 year old neice comes here, she loves to make herself and her mummy and daddy, and to make a house with a pool, swings and such, and that is about the extent of her gameplay.

How old were you when you started Sims 2?
I was 20, lol. Id always loved the game (ps2 versions and such) but i had to wait until i could afford a decent computer to have it, and as soon as i did i was hooked.

Has the idea of 'WooHoo' or kissing (in game) effected you mentally (visually, physically,etc.)
Erm, not at all lol. I think its kinda funny, and definitely misleads. There ain't gonna be fireworks everytime lmao!

Should children (under 13) play Sims 2?
--My 7-year old half-brother plays it. And by playing it, I mean create what basically amounts to the same 3 families over and over again, never really doing anything new.

How old were you when you started Sims (1 or 2)?
--Don't remember.

Has the idea of 'WooHoo' or kissing (in game) effected you mentally (visually, physically,etc.)?
--The only thought I put into WooHooing is how the hell are the Sims still able to walk after seeing some of the positions they get into.

I think they should be able to - I've been playing Sims 2 for a long time and I'm only 13. My mom didn't really care that it was rated T...

I *think* I was ten. I got it cuz one of my friends had it. XD

No........It's probably what really got me wondering how exactly babies were made. I dunno. There's not really anything that bad about it, really. I guess it's just an aspect of the game to me. I don't think about it.

Should children (under 13) play Sims 2?

I don't see why not as long as they understand the rules of the game and get enjoyment from it. Most little girls play with barbie and ken dolls and get them dressed and undressed, so non-sexual nudity isn't really new to them. Like everyone has said they'll most probably be interested in the creative aspect of the game, and not really understand the relationships mechanics or not even be aware of them, depending on their age. As for woohoo, they probably know that mom and daddy sometimes like to play and fool around, and unless they know what's really going on they'll probably not guess what's going on under the covers. lol

How old were you when you started Sims (1 or 2)?

I think I started playing when I was 24, so no mental scars for me.

Has the idea of 'WooHoo' or kissing (in game) effected you mentaly (visualy, physicaly,etc.)?

No, it hasn't affectected me, but the censor blur causes strain to my eyes and I feel like I have very poor eyesight. lol

-Should children (under 13) play Sims 2?
Younger children would probably get bored with the actual gameplay anyway... but 10 years old up, yes, sure.

-How old were you when you started Sims (1 or 2)?
Let me see... the first base game was in 2000 and I've been playing since the beginning... so it's 15 for me.

-Has the idea of 'WooHoo' or kissing (in game) effected you mentaly (visualy, physicaly,etc.)?
I knew how babies are made since I was 5 (though just the basic idea, appropriate for a child that age). At 15 I knew the whole deal without needing a videogame to tell me how it's done.

-Should children (under 13) play Sims 2?

Well, I think they should, sims do not bring up anything most children don't already know about. Well unless they're 4 or something, then they wouldn't be interested in the game anyway.

-How old were you when you started Sims (1 or 2)?

I believe I was 7 when I got TS1...

-Has the idea of 'WooHoo' or kissing (in game) effected you mentaly (visualy, physicaly,etc.)?

Not at all...I found it rather funny and silly to think that all my sims had to do to make babies is kiss and that someone had to call my sims in order for them to adopt a baby since no orphanages ever called my house just to ask me if I'd like to adopt...

Actually, when I got TS2 I was...12? 13? I can't really remember...but WooHooing to have a baby, and actual pregnancies were a relief since that kissing has been bothering me as something too unrealistic since I was 7. And no, I don't think that I have been mentally scarred by seeing bunches of pixels making out, having babies and dying.

I think it should totally be up to the parents. They know their kids best and what may or may not be appropriate for how they are bringing them up. I don't see a lot in the game that could really hurt a kid. I just can't imagine it would keep a very young child's attention for very long.

Gosh, I don't even remember what year the original Sims 1 came out. Was it 2000? I was well into adulthood. I do know that.

I find the WooHoo interactions amusing. Beyond chuckling the first couple of times I saw it, I can't say it affected me any other way. I don't think it would've impacted me as a kid, though. My parents taught me from a fairly early age where babies come from. I probably would've found the fireworks in the bed animation or the way the cars shake and jump around funny, and that'd be about it.

Something Simsample said struck me, though. The ease with which people can smack each other around might be disturbing to small children, particularly if "mommie" starts smacking "daddy" around, or vice versa. It'd be good to sit with small kids, and if they chose that interaction, talk with them about it.

My nephews have been playing for a few years. I think they were less than 13 when they started and I was like "What?" just because I thought they would not be interested but they just like games.

My son is 10 (almost 11) but he will not be playing it as it is MY game and my one form of computer entertainment just for me...He prefers his gamecube and ds anyhow. I bought him My Sims for the ds and he was so bored (it is boring).

If he wants to play in the future he better find a new computer and his own downloads! :howdy:

The woohoo bit was amusing at first but a bit boring now. I try not to let them woohoo when he is in the room. My husband gets shocked by it (he's English, what can I tell you? (and he is not a gamer...so enough said there).

-Should children (under 13) play Sims 2?

I cant see why not, as long as they can handle the technology and dont mess upp the game or computer totally. After all nothing really bad goes on in the game. And there is no harmful nudity (?), just the blur that probably makes it even more interesting in some reversed psychological way. well, well...
But; I never liked the "smacking around" either, so it would be that part then, and the fact that they cry over practically nothing, and leave their infants on the cold floor. That upsets me too, even though Im old in comparision, and it definitely sends out the wrong signals to small or sensitive children.

-How old were you when you started Sims (1 or 2)?

I was 35 when I started with sims 1.....

-Has the idea of 'WooHoo' or kissing (in game) effected you mentaly (visualy, physicaly,etc.)?

No, not at all. Well, the woohoo made me laugh at first, but it gets really boring seeing them repeat the same moves. I usually fastforward the interaction because its so unrealistic.The fireworks annoys me. The kissing and hugging is really cute, but fairly normal activities.

And I dont want to be "moral" about it, but somehow I think all the killing monsters and get scorepoints for violent action in other games is more disturbing that the woohoo and making out in sims 2.

-Should children (under 13) play Sims 2?
It depends on the child and the parents, but I see no problem with it.

-How old were you when you started Sims (1 or 2)?
8 (Sims 1)

-Has the idea of 'WooHoo' or kissing (in game) effected you mentaly (visualy, physicaly,etc.)?
Haha, no. I was playing Tomb Raider as a young child and I've had a computer since I was 4. Video games have never had a negative effect on me. (Except for playing a bit longer than I should. :eviltongu)

The base game is 7+ for violence, yet every expansion pack is 12+ for violence and sex...

-Should children (under 13) play Sims 2?
well it a 12+ here

-How old were you when you started Sims (1 or 2)?
dunno, my first sims game was the sims on gamecube, probably about 9
Has the idea of 'WooHoo' or kissing (in game) effected you mentaly (visualy, physicaly,etc.)?
Why would it.

Should children (under 13) play Sims 2?

I don't see a reason why they shouldn't - it's up to the parents.

How old were you when you started Sims (1 or 2)?

I was somewhere between 10 or 11 years old when I started with The Sims 2, but younger (and I don't know how much younger) when I played The Sims. I don't even remember when I got The Sims 1, but I got it along with Livin' Large and House Party, so I should've been 7 at the time...

Has the idea of 'WooHoo' or kissing (in game) effected you mentaly (visualy, physicaly,etc.)?

No. At first I didn't know what WooHoo stood for, but after a first baby poping out, I got the point. xD
Neither has the fact that my brother and I used to kill sims for fun back in TS1...

I would be more concerned about kids playing GTA than Sims (1, 2 or 3). Althought I'd probably use a hack to remove make out and woohoo for under 10's.
Althought my daughter (5) likes to watch me play so she has already seen sims woohoo and she completely ignored it like it was nothing. I think it's our twisted minds what make it seem bad. The older the person is the more thought he or she gives to those actions.
I also remember my friends kids (12 and 6 at the time) coming to play Sims 2 all the time and they were mostly building houses..


18 (January 2003).


No. I knew what sex is since I was 5 yet thought babies are being brought by storks till I was about 10. And I must say my parents are pretty old fashioned when it comes to sharing that kind of information. My mother only told me about menstruations when I started mine and completely freaked out. She wouldn't even let me watch people kiss (even at older age) and say how gross it is.. I wonder what the heck were they thinking..

Should children (under 13) play Sims 2?

It's absolutely fine for children to play with Sims 2 because, like with older players, everyone finds something that they like in the Sims or that they can find enjoyment in. I'm not saying that three year old children should play with it but maybe a child who was six years old or older because they have a general understanding of life and even if they don't know about sex yet they can still explore other parts of the game too. I don't even think the WooHoo is that bad either because in order to have WooHoo in the game two Sims have to be in love with each other. It shows more of love than lust. Even the kissing isn't something that would concern kids because with the exception of the Make Out and Smooch option the kisses in the game are more on the sweeter side (and thank goodness that Sims don't have tongues).

The one thing that I find really bad for children in the game besides of the fighting and handling of relationships is the Romance aspiration. In the game it shows that you can be with as many women as you want to be with, have sex with as many as you can, and just see how many times you can get laid with in your lifespan. Not that it's teaching them to become miniature pimps but it gives a bad example to kids. Another small problem I've had with the game was all of those locations you can have WooHoo in. But it doesn't bother me that much anymore because it's not too likely that kids would discover all of them (except those nasty perverts on the BBS).

How old were you when you started Sims (1 or 2)?
I occasionally played the original Sims game at my cousin's house but I really had to convince my parents that I could get the Sims 2 because they were concerned about some of the inappropriate parts.

Has the idea of 'WooHoo' or kissing (in game) effected you mentaly (visualy, physicaly,etc.)?
Not really, except when people say "WooHoo!", I kind of laugh a bit inside. Also, I bet a lot of women would love for the pregnencies in the Sims to be like real pregnencies because they'd only be pregnent for three days and childbirth isn't as painful in the Sims than in reality.

Debate Question(s):
-Should children (under 13) play Sims 2?
Yes, I think the sims is a peaceful game.

-How old were you when you started Sims (1 or 2)?
Pff I don't know.. Older than 12 because before we had no computer.:D
My little brother started playing it when he was 11 I think?

-Has the idea of 'WooHoo' or kissing (in game) effected you mentaly (visualy, physicaly,etc.)?
Haha is it called WooHoo in English? Funny name.Here it is Oh Yes.
Uhm, no. It's not shocking or something, you just see sims going under the sheets so there is nothing to see about it so it doesn't effect me and also younger children not I think. I think when they are too young for that they also don't know what there sims really are doing under the sheets.:P
Kissing doesnt effect me at all because that's a normal part of life I think. Everyday you see a lot of people around kissing so it's something what's normal and if it wasnt in the game I would find it strange.

Hmmm, I wouldn't call it peaceful- the sims don't need much provocation to become enemies and fight!

Who hadn't seen "worse" in films anyway

My kid's just a tiny baby, but I fully plan on building him a PC when he's old enough to use it (already have most of the parts! ). It will have Wikipedia as his default browser homepage... and a full install of all TS2 EPs and SPs as well as a selection of the best gig or several of custom content the community has to offer. I see nothing objectionable in the game to keep a child from playing it - the sex and violence are all pretty tame and I would much rather talk about such issues with him rather than shielding him from them completely, even at a young age. Which is not to say I'd let him play or watch absolutely anything - no My First Snuff Film or anything like that, but children explore the world through play, and I don't see anything too bad in TS2. He's -definitely- going to play TS2 and he'd better like it too - without the game, he wouldn't exist!

Awhh HP thats well cute :]
Hehe :3

Same here! My parents used to talk to me about all sorts of stuff, and I seem to have turned out ok! So I have the same idea as you, except that my kid(s) aren't even tiny babies yet, but are still just a twinkle in their father's eye! But planning ahead is a good thing, right? :D

Now that's enough of that, HP- I hear he already has a PC, and MTS2 administrator control panel is the current homepage!